tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3337042377966398742.post2950200514965059542..comments2024-02-22T07:47:22.661-05:00Comments on The Bathroom Monologues: Bathroom Monologue: YA Fiction Vs. OA FictionJohn Wiswellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07416044628686736927noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3337042377966398742.post-59409577267258477332011-08-07T00:15:53.766-04:002011-08-07T00:15:53.766-04:00So true, John! I enjoy how you use the absurd to m...So true, John! I enjoy how you use the absurd to make your points.Jodi MacArthurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13373591664178281529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3337042377966398742.post-43974571776831266122011-07-25T20:42:34.072-04:002011-07-25T20:42:34.072-04:00Senior fiction. OK, that's the idea of the wee...Senior fiction. OK, that's the idea of the week. Catheters, naughty old folks creeping from room to room in the old folks home, whodunnits featuring poisoned jello and IVs, brawls involving canes, walkers and false teeth...Lihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08831231531918915804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3337042377966398742.post-17446898433885520572011-07-25T14:45:02.905-04:002011-07-25T14:45:02.905-04:00Monica, I'm a little guilty. Any time people s...Monica, I'm a little guilty. Any time people say "graphic novel" I want to respond with jokes about porn. But that really is just the pretention of certain comics.<br /><br />Chuck, I've read two. We can be old together. Fogy five!<br /><br />Danni, I just can't abide adults bashing this stuff anymore. It's an epidemic. At least Transformers does rather explicitly exploit actual adults' childhoods into suckering us in. Didn't work on me, though. Grimlock remains safely in my nostalgia zone.<br /><br />Erin, I'm not sure what that trap is. Is it to make readers feel like you have one scheme of reality, then lurch into another? Because that can often indicate broken fiction. What was the context of the reader's complaint? Simply couldn't handle a mix of the fantastic and the real?John Wiswellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07416044628686736927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3337042377966398742.post-10728016576738287532011-07-25T13:40:06.384-04:002011-07-25T13:40:06.384-04:00Senior citizen fiction - love it!
A fellow write...Senior citizen fiction - love it! <br /><br />A fellow writer/blogger made a comment about a review someone gave him about his book, complaining that, "it jumped from reality to nonreality." But the book is speculative, fantastic fiction. That's what it was supposed to do, and I think alot of YA novels fall into this trap, with many readers going so far as to call them "immature." Personally, I think YA novels would be some of the hardest to write.EChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09359075647077590741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3337042377966398742.post-3545040122950227542011-07-25T11:53:38.718-04:002011-07-25T11:53:38.718-04:00Good point, Wisard/Danni. One has to be educated t...Good point, Wisard/Danni. One has to be educated to present an educated argument. Otherwise it's just malcontented whinging from a person who lets the media/world tell them what to read.<br /><br />And yes, I'm also tired of saying "Adult Literature — But it's not porn!"Monica Marierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03112762564137354581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3337042377966398742.post-4516440228562630782011-07-25T11:49:11.892-04:002011-07-25T11:49:11.892-04:00Thanks for making me feel old, john, as I've r...Thanks for making me feel old, john, as I've read more than two Dostoevsky's. <br /><br />I do share your frustration with adults who want to complain about the YA novel they read not measuring up to the Cliffs Notes summary of The Scarlet Letter which they read in high school.Chuck Allenhttp://www.chuckallen.us/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3337042377966398742.post-89288718958702714842011-07-25T11:40:52.661-04:002011-07-25T11:40:52.661-04:00I agree. It's like complaining that Transforme...I agree. It's like complaining that Transformers has no artistic value. Uh...it's not supposed to. Twilight wasn't written to be a literary masterpiece. Some young adult fiction is amazing. Some of it is simply entertaining. The same as adult fiction. The same with movies and music. You can't bitch that Bon Jovi isn't Beethoven. Turn off the radio, dammit! Put the book down and go back to the literary section of the book store.Danielle La Pagliahttp://www.daniellelapaglia.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3337042377966398742.post-37633459900605603262011-07-25T11:09:43.367-04:002011-07-25T11:09:43.367-04:00I haven't run into people treating Adult liter...I haven't run into people treating Adult literature as though it's for deviants. I am certainly annoyed that the crossover in use of terms like "Adult" and "Mature" can confuse the audiences for porn and high art.<br /><br />YA is not for morons. It's for Young Adults, and many fully grown adults read it. I don't have a problem with that; I liked the second Harry Potter book and adore Jeff Smith's Bone. Harper Lee and Mark Twain gave us works that could be marketed for YA. As I say, my deep problem is with adults who don't read much, read below their level, and bitch about it.John Wiswellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07416044628686736927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3337042377966398742.post-78110844074709502022011-07-25T10:53:48.084-04:002011-07-25T10:53:48.084-04:00I am a little tired of the whole "YA is for m...I am a little tired of the whole "YA is for morons" and "Adult literature is for deviants" rule. It's really hard to find an intelligent book that doesn't have some of the rape, violence and incest that I find repellant in adult books. <br /><br />I'm going out of my way to write intelligent YA and if people think I haven't pandered enough to my primary audience they can stick it in their copy of Eragon.Monica Marierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03112762564137354581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3337042377966398742.post-40636811656109627852011-07-25T09:15:31.929-04:002011-07-25T09:15:31.929-04:00I would desperately love to believe that I am not ...I would desperately love to believe that I am not yet of the age to understand the great masterpieces because I, like everyone else you called out earlier, look at Crime and Punishment and go "Uh... no?" Perhaps when I am limited to the activites of knitting and reading (which is my retirement plan) I'll finally understand and can get on the list of your book.Bevimushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14924337684790883853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3337042377966398742.post-56413956384288486982011-07-25T07:31:33.179-04:002011-07-25T07:31:33.179-04:00we are getting ridiculous about genre definition.....we are getting ridiculous about genre definition... i love the idea of senior citizen fiction. just make it naughty, please. peace...Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01110078016784294934noreply@blogger.com